Fake Rolex Sub No Date: Short Answer
A fake Rolex Sub No Date is a replica of the Submariner with no date window. Three genuine references carry that name: the 14060M with an aluminum bezel (ended 2012), the 114060 with a ceramic bezel (2012 to 2020), and the 124060 with a 41 mm case (2020 to now). Replica factories build the 114060 and the 124060 in the largest numbers. No genuine Submariner No Date has a cyclops lens, a date wheel, or a crown position for setting a date. A Sub with a date aperture at 3 o'clock is a different reference.
Genuine specs to compare
The 114060 uses a 40 mm Oystersteel case, about 12.5 mm thick, about 150 g on a full Oyster bracelet. Water resistance is 300 m. The movement is calibre 3130 at 28,800 vph with a 48-hour power reserve. Lug width is 20 mm. The bezel is Cerachrom ceramic with the numerals filled by a platinum PVD process. The crystal has no cyclops.
The 124060 uses a 41 mm case, a 21 mm lug width, and calibre 3230. Power reserve is 70 hours. Both watches have a black dial, Maxi markers, no date aperture, and an Oyster bracelet with a Glidelock clasp.
Replica build tiers
- Budget, $50 to $150: 316L steel case, mineral glass or low-grade sapphire, printed bezel insert, DG2813 movement at 21,600 vph. Gaskets go untested.
- Mid, $150 to $350: sapphire crystal, ceramic insert, A2824 or A2836 movement at 28,800 vph. End link fit changes from batch to batch.
- Top, $400 to $800: 904L steel on some builds, cloned 3130 or 3230 movement, anti-reflective crystal, ceramic insert with filled markers, solid end links, screw pins.
Checks that find a weak build
- Measure the case with calipers. The 114060 is 40.0 mm across. The 124060 is 41.0 mm.
- Weigh the watch. A full steel bracelet on a 114060 comes to about 150 g.
- Count crown positions. A No Date movement has two, winding and time set. A third click points to a 2836 movement with a dead date wheel.
- Run a timegrapher. A clone 3130 or 3230 reads 28,800 vph and a beat error under 0.5 ms.
- Turn the bezel. It moves one direction with no back play. The lume pip at 12 sits in a metal surround.
- Check the rehaut. Engraved text sits at an even depth around the dial ring, with the serial at 6 o'clock.
Water resistance and service
Replica cases ship with gaskets, but no factory pressure-tests each unit. A case that holds 3 ATM on a static test can leak at 10 ATM. Keep replicas out of pools and salt water. Movements in the $400 to $800 tier are clones, and a watchmaker can regulate or swap them. Budget movements at 21,600 vph show a beat rate on a timegrapher that differs from the genuine 3130 or 3230.
Prices
Secondary market asking prices for a used 114060 sat near $8,000 to $9,500 in 2024. The 124060 sat near $9,500 to $11,000. Box and papers add to the total. Replica prices run from $50 to $800 and do not track the genuine market.
Legal note
US federal law, 18 U.S.C. 2320, makes trafficking in counterfeit goods a crime. US Customs can seize shipments of counterfeit watches.